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Il 15/06/2011 17:44, Allen Pulsifer ha scritto:
Thorsten Behrens wrote: don't discuss e.g. trademark issues on a public list, if you want
to stand a chance actually obtaining it.

I can see how you might believe this, but I'm not sure it is grounded in
fact or experience.  In fact, look at where we ended up:

- Oracle pulled all resources from the project.
- TdF did not obtain the trademark or the domain.

- The community ended up fractured.

Regardless of who's "fault" this is, had the discussions been done in public
and involved all of the community instead of a select group, the results
might have been different.  That's water under the bridge at this point, but
given the results, a little bit of introspection and willingness to make
accommodations might benefit everyone.

Sorry Allen but you are in contradiction. Before you say "Regardless of
who's fault" and at the end it seems you are accusing TDF to be the
cause of the community fracture.

I just want to remember you we have been discussing about a foundation
since 2003. Sun/IBM before and then Oracle/IBM after, always in silence.

Don't you think people can become tired of non-changing things?
Don't you think the introspection should be made on both parts?

Anyway, maybe TDF (and Sun/Oracle/IBM) made some mistakes but to keep
discussing about spilt milk is completely useless.


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