Re: [tdf-discuss] Competition in the EU regarding pre-installed Windows

2011/4/22 Simos Xenitellis <simos.lists@googlemail.com>

> On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 2:03 PM, M Henri Day <mhenriday@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 2011/4/22 Simos Xenitellis <simos.lists@googlemail.com>
> >
> > > FFII and the AFUL (two free-software associations) have started a
> > > crowd-sourcing effort
> > > to provide information to the European Commission Competition agency
> about
> > > the lack of choice for the consumers when it comes to computers and
> > > compulsory pre-installed Windows.
> > >
> > > Original press-releases:
> http://press.ffii.org/Press%20releases/Share%20your%20operating%20system%20bundling%20tales%20with%20the%20EU
> > >
> http://aful.org/communiques/share-your-operating-system-bundling-tales-with-the-eu
> > > Here is my take to simplify the message,
> > > http://simos.info/blog/archives/1198
> > >
> > > How is this relevant to LibreOffice? The source of the problem is the
> > > bundling of Microsoft
> > > Windows to the new computers. The manufacturers get discounts for the
> > > licenses if they support
> > > only Windows, if they promote only Windows on their websites and ads,
> and
> > > so on.
> > > If this relationship weakens, we may see a chance for LibreOffice on
> > > new computers,
> > > or Linux computers that obviously have LibreOffice.
> > >
> > > tl;dr: Visit
> http://ec.europa.eu/competition/forms/consumer_form_en.html
> > > to report cases where you could not buy a computer without Windows,
> > > while you had not need for Windows.
> > >
> > > Simos
> >
> > «If this relationship weakens, we may see a chance for LibreOffice on new
> > computers, or Linux computers that obviously have LibreOffice.»
> >
> > 'tis a consummation. Devoutly to be wished. But somehow I find it
> difficult
> > to envisage either Joaquín Almunia eller Alexander Italianer going that
> > far....
>
> I do not understand the comment.
>
> What we do is report to the EU the cases we know, where we were forced
> to buy a computer
> with pre-installed Windows, although we did not need Windows (either
> we use Linux
> or we already had a Windows license).
>
> It's up to the Competition agency of the European Commission to take
> appropriate action.
> That's their job.
> Our job, and the initiative from the FFII and AFUL, is to report cases
> to the EC Competition agency.
>
> Simos

Just pointing out, Simos, that I don't share what seems to be your
confidence in the ability - or for that matter, the intention - of the
Competition Agency to do what we both agree is its job....

Henri

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