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On Mar 9, 2011, at 08:50 , James Wilde wrote:

On Mar 9, 2011, at 04:05 , NoOp wrote:

Of late there are multiple posts on the users list regarding mail list
subscribe and unsubscribe issues.


Florian points out an issue with mailman:
We use mlmmj for good reasons.
Mailman has a lot of options and the luxury of a web interface, but it's
a total mess for moderators. You have one password per list for all
moderators, and moderation via e-mail is a pain.

Just re-read the msg from Florian quoted above, and the bit NoOp filtered out is:

That being said, the only viable alternative for the moment was mlmmj 
(Majordomo is legacy, Smartlist is procmail-based, ezmlm is qmail-only; 
maybe Sympa is an alternative). So, at the moment, I can't do much about 
it. Mailman would be great if we didn't need to moderate.


This is significant, since, as we are agreed, the only valid reason for moderators, given their 
limited powers, is, in fact, being able to pass unsubscribed messages.

One thing I omitted in my original reply was that a significant portion (don't ask for a %age) of 
the moderated posts are from regular posters who for some reason post from an address they have not 

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