[tdf-discuss] Re: Survey: Usage of LibreOffice components

On Mon. 29.11.2010 15:23, Sebastian Spaeth wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 20:26:07 +0100, Peter Lairo<PeterLairo@gmail.com>  wrote:
> > No application should be so arrogant as to start-up with the OS
> > per default.
>
> Then you will be delighted to hear that it has been effectively turned
> off in Linux by default, if I overheard it correctly.

I use Windows, so I'd be a wee little more delighted if the 
quick-starter were turned off per default on Windows. ;-)

> > It seems OO (and LO even more so) still hasn't understood the REAL
> > reason why people overwhelmingly choose non-OSS software (Firefox being
> > the *exception*): Usability, and a rational understanding what a regular
> > user *really* is (clue: it's not you).
>
> hey hey there, take a chill pill. There might be many reasons why people
> choose MS Office, but the quickstarter itself will not be it.

Yeah, I wasn't clear: There are *several* things about LO that 
demonstrate my point - not just the quick-starter.

> And as for
> accusing LO to not understanding reasons BLABLA. LibO is now 1 months&
> 1 day old, sorry for not having saved the world and creating world piece
> yet.

It's the other way around: OO was already lagging *way* behind MS Office 
in usability, and then LO - in just 1 month + 1 day - made it *worse*. 
I'm referring, e.g., to the horrid new icons.

> I am sure we will get to a sensible feature and default set, at least I
> see that as one of the advantages of not being controlled by a single
> corporate entity anymore. Previously, they could do whatever they (and
> their marketing dep. wanted).

Well, those evil corporate entities consistently make better software 
(again: Firefox being the notable exception). OTOH, OSS does a great job 
of keeping interoperability alive (e.g., web standards and ODF). So, 
there is a balancing act between the ideologues and the profit-oriented. 
The Firefox developers understand this balance. Other OSS (incl. OO/LO) 
show too many signs of ignorance of and arrogance toward "regular" users 
("regular" being those 90% of the total user pool who don't choose OSS - 
even though it's free).

PS. Could we at least egg the person(s) who made those icons? (I keed) ;-)
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