Re: [tdf-discuss] UI proposal

Le 2010-10-29 20:12, RGB ES a écrit :
> 2010/10/30 Michel Gagnon<michel@mgagnon.net>:
> > I am puzzled as to why you want to avoid any direct formatting. I am a power
> > user and a great fan of style sheets; yet, as far as I am concerned, the
> > great strength of style sheets is when something needs to be repeatable. So
> > I will define paragraph styles, bullet styles and heading styles because
> > similar paragraph "configurations" will appear more than once in my
> > document. Likewise for legends or equations in a technical document. On the
> > other hand, tables rarely repeat themselves: number and width of columns
> > differ, some have text, others have numbers, etc.
>
> Number and width of columns are not controlled by styles. In fact you
> cannot control almost nothing from tables on any way within Writer,
> not even with autoformatted tables. Styles only apply to cell content,
> and to that I always try to avoid any direct formatting.
>
> > – better interactions between bullet styles and regular paragraph styles (or
> > maybe a clearer explanation on how both work);
>
> Agree
>
> > – partial character styles (and maybe partial paragraph styles): for
> > example, "Strong" (or "accented") might simply defined as "whatever
> > paragraph style and font styles are already applied" + Bold, and "note"
> > might be defined as "85% of height in grey";
>
> Actually, that's the way character styles work right now: if you link
> your character style with "Predefined" and only change a few
> attributes, all other attributes will be inherited from the paragraph
> style.
>
> > – the possibility of having a paragraph style followed by another one should
> > also work within cells, so the style used for column header would be
> > automatically followed by the one used for column content, for example;
>
> If you activate table headers (you need to insert the table from
> Insert ->  Table instead of using the toolbar button) "Table header"
> paragraph style is automatically applied to the header cells and
> "Table content" to all others. The system needs to be a lot more
> flexible, though.
>
> > – last but not least, page styles should be optionally linked to a base
> > style (i.e. margins of my first page could then be automatically modified
> > from the margins of my standard page).
>
> 100 % agreement!!!
>
> > For compatibility, the same stylesheets should exist in Impress, with added
> > features linked to paragraph animation. Imagine the ease of transfer if a
> > "standard paragraph -- bullet 1 level 2" paragraph would contain all the
> > following:
> > – in Writer: font: Bodoni 10 pt; bullet: n-dash ; indents: 1p6, -1p6, 0;
> > spaces: 5pt, 0.95 li, 0;
> > – in Calc:...
> > – in Impress: font Helvetica Bold 16pt blue ; bullet: n-dash gold ; indents:
> > 3p, -3p, 0; spaces: 12pt, 1.1li, 0; visual effect: slide from left in 2
> > seconds...
>
> Yes, paragraph and character styles on Draw and Impress will be great!
>
> Let me add one thing: styles for Math!!!! I desperately need that!!!!
> (Ok, I'm exaggerating... ;) )

It may be a good idea to repost this under a descriptive subject line so 
that other power-users may chime in? This may be of interest to the LibO 
dev who may be interested in improving the treatment of styles. This 
way, these suggestions and comments would not be lost inside a thread 
such as this.

Marc


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