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On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Steven Shelton <>wrote:

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Okay, I get what's going on here with the new foundation being
created, but I think the way the announcements are done is a bit
confusing to the average person who is not an "insider" on the project.

Is LibreOffice a new fork of OOo, or is this essentially the same as
when the Mozilla Foundation completely took over the Netscape/Firefox
project? In other words, will new versions of continue
to be developed and supported/made available for download at, or is (the product) now renamed
LibreOffice, meaning all new development will take place under that

And is LibreOffice Beta the same as 3.3 Beta 1, but
rebranded? What's the relationship between the two?

This has GOT to be confusing to the average user. I've been fairly
involved in OOo for years, and *I'm* confused about what's happening
here. Can someone clear this up a bit?

The answer depends on oracle participation, the idea was not a fork but a
indepeendence of the community. If oracle want to work with the foundation,
we can go back to business as usual as

However if Oracle do not want to give back the brand (which was TM back us
in the beginning). Then we will jump as fork just yet. So we are hesitant to
call it a fork since Oracle hasn't send anything official.

(FWIW, this has historically been one of the major roadblocks to
adoption of more open source software--especially linux--by "regular"
consumers. The software seems to be designed by and for developers
because the announcements and documentation are all aimed at the "in
crowd" who understand what it means to compile, what a "distro" is,
and what a "fork" is. Joe Sixpack has no way of understanding what

Hey you will always have joe sixpacks running around confused regardless of
how clear you can be. I don't think our goal is to eradicate the joe
sixpacks of the world.

most of the software is, let alone distinguish between versions and
understand how to install and use the software. If the idea is to make
open source software more prominent, there has to be a better effort
on the part of the open source community--for all projects--to be less
"developer" oriented and to be more "consumer" oriented in
documentation and promotion.)

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