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Hi, Marc,

On 11/2/11 2:57 PM, Marc Paré wrote:
Hi Ken

Le 2011-11-02 11:53, Ken Springer a écrit :

Hopefully, you've read my reply to Florian about the websites and
potential confusion if you are at the LO site and not the TDF site.

I've been watching the user forum thread in this list, most of which is
beyond my understanding, and may post a comment of what I would like to
see when it comes to how the whole process appears to an end user.

What would a mockup consist of?

We have had some discussions on revising some pages on the site and the
design team is just now getting to some design changes. It may look like
the TDF and LibreOffice sites were just thrown together and in part,
yes, they were put together in a very short amount of time due to
various reason. But, as we are ALL volunteers and help the community
with our available time, some changes may seem to come slowly. But
changes will eventually come around depending on the number o f people
who are able to make the changes.

I saw the design change discussions earlier, but simply didn't have time to post a thoughtful reply. I have noticed the new 'banner" at the top of each main page, nicely done.

I think one of the biggest disappointment for me, on the LO pages, is all the basic design rules that I learned about in an introductory web design class I took, were not followed. Rules, that if I didn't follow in class, I got marked down for. Sadly, most pages these days don't follow many rules. Guess where I rarely go.... LOL

As we are a very large group, discussions about the website design were
taken up on this thread and the design thread. You will have to read
back on the different threads about this to catch up on what was
discussed so far.

More importantly, the design team has elaborated some suggested design
changes stemming from past discussions with the community. For example,
the downloads pages needs reworking and you the process is just now
getting to the point of final review. You can see this process on the
design team's whiteboard[1]. You can see some mockups on that page.

I checked out the whiteboard, I do like that look. Much simpler, IMO, but gets the job done.

If you feel you could contribute with concrete suggestions, feel free to
join the design team and suggest some of these on that particular list.
It is important that if you are going to contribute, that you do not
bring objections to the discussions but rather ideas and positive
suggestions relating to design. The designers will not listen nor work
with people ranting negative statements as they are all volunteers and
offer their help through their free time. BTW, they are an awesome bunch!

I try not to rant, although my writing style may read that way to some.

And I may try to offer some observations on the design, although those observations may be too late. I try to make my observation,s when viewing something computer related, as if I was the type of user who doesn't even know how the computer organizes/stores files on a hard drive. To be specific, like a friend of mine who I still don't think understands what a web browser is or does.

Now that I know what a "mockup" is, that is way beyond my ability to create, without an awful lot of work at my end. The best I could do would be to provide an organizational chart of how I would arrange and link pages, with some comments on the content of the pages. In preparation for the other post I just wrote, I found a problem on the Nabble related pages. I can be on Level B of the hierarchy, click a link to go up to Level A, but then there's no link to get back down to Level B. :-)


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