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Il 01/09/2011 20:26, Charles-H. Schulz ha scritto:
Hello Carlo,

I may only answer to some of your questions...

Le Thu, 01 Sep 2011 17:27:33 +0200,
Carlo Strata<>  a écrit :

Hi Everyone,

I want only to open a positive (constructive) talk, discuss.

I think we all have to point to quality by the following means:

- all documents (Open Documents, PDFs or real print) yielded by
LibreOffice have to be near perfection;
What do you mean by "near perfection"?

I mean that documents have to be corrected for the normal use:
- pdf export;
- calc rendering;
- calc multiple page print;
- image aligned as all our world attends;
- calculus correctness;
- standard adherence (ODF, PDF, SVG, ....);
- all day things...;

- priority bugs have to be valuated with the previous mean in mind;

- all LibreOffice generated documents all over the world are the sign
and the face of our quality;

- if wrong documents are linked to LibreOffice in People's mind we
are putting our time and efforts away through the window;


- only with document quality, we will be growing at enterprise side
in trust, confidence and reliance too;
I don't know, I'm not sure about that :-) I think people have to be
made aware of ODF documents, otherwise they'll think it's a nuisance.

So you agree that nuisance is a bad thing... ;-)

So ODF have to be a true good (= "near perfect") things/opportunity/chance...

- here in Italy, PDF/A-1a file format, e.g., is the standard way
(file format) to give back information to Public Administrations
(e.g. Central Trade Offices, ...): if professionals or enterprise
cannot do that with LibreOffice they don't adopt it. Full stop. And
we couldn't work with them to grow in LibreOffice adoption and, of
course, TDF doesn't grow all over the minds, in the streets, on many
countries and in the related healthy and sound business;
I can save documents under PDF/A-1 with LibreOffice. :-)

I see someone told you that this is (ehm was!!!) an x86-64 bug! Regression (I pointed out the old Novell Bugzilla issue)!!!

- I'm seeing many regressions in these days that I thought have been
definitively fixed, many regarding "document quality": I think it
isn't enough to fix it again, but we ought to ask ourselves why these
regressions occur, what are we mistaking, what could we improving in
the whole process, in the workflows;

- are we sure, once more, that all regressions fixed are than
forward-ported to 3.5.x branch or I can aspect to a "new" related
regression when I'll try to use the future 3.5.x release?

- are someone interested in make quality always lower, someway
boycotting LibreOffice and its diffusion, spread? Are regression
somewhat, and also, linked to this? These are weak hypothesis, but I
cannot fall silence about them anymore;
So concretely, what would you like to improve the quality process?

I write this in answer to Rainer, but mailing list server refuse my reply at the moment (this happen sometime since a month ago).

But shortly:
- give to bug that affect normal use (in the upper mean) more importance and fix it sooner (GSoC, University, Sponsorship, donations, volunteers, ...); - sometime and cycling asking ourself why (!) regressions occurs and so if we can change things (redesign workflows and so on) to reduce them always more...
- ... see my answer to Rainer.

Have a nice Sunday,



- I'm an Italian Computer Engineer and I'm part of the Venice
Engineer Professional Association ("Ordine degli Ingengneri di
Venezia") to whom I want to make adopting both OpenDocument file
format and LibreOffice to deal with that file format, but at the
moment (3.4.3) I still cannot. When will I be able to? At 3.4.4 time?

My 2 euros ;-)


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