RE: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

I am not happy with Allen's characterization of Simon's participation.

I suspect the difference is that Allen put himself on the list of initial committers and is now on 
the podling PPMC at Apache.  Simon did not choose to put himself on that list.

That's Simon's business.  

Simon has been a vocal, active participant in the run-up to the Apache Incubator vote to accept the 
Oracle contribution and on the public lists that are now established for the Apache podling.

I, for one, welcome any contributions that Simon cares to make, and that Allen will be making.  

I should point out that it is a waste of time to become an initial committer and member of the 
podling PPMC with the goal of canceling Rob Weir's (or anyone else's) vote, because there is rarely 
any voting, *especially* on technical matters.  I am learning as a newcomer there that Apache is a 
*serious* inclusive meritocracy and it is better to look at it as there being no one who has a 
privileged seat at the table.

 - Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: Simon Phipps [mailto:simon@webmink.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 09:37
To: discuss@documentfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice


On 16 Jun 2011, at 17:31, Allen Pulsifer wrote:

> > Allen Pulsifer wrote:
> > As an experienced person in the open source world, I would think you know
> by now that
> > it is a lot easier to influence a project when have a seat at the table
> and are working from
> > the inside rather of the outside.  You could have also been one of those
> persons with a seat
> > at the table, and together, we would have had twice the voice as Rob Weir.
>
> > Simon Phipps replied:
> > Excuse me? What are all the contributions I am making on that list?
> Chopped liver?
>
> Pretty much, yes.  As a person who chose not to have a seat at the table,
> you are serving up chopped liver for the people at the table to taste and
> decide whether they want to eat it.  That's a fair analogy, I think, if it's
> the one you want to use.

Given I've showed up in both conversations at Apache and made actual tangible contributions of at 
least the same scale as yours, I honestly have no idea what you are getting at, Allen. 

Thanks,

S.


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