Re: [tdf-discuss] OpenOffice.org articles in Linux Format March 2011

At 4:09pm -0500 Fri, 11 Feb 2011, Charles Marcus wrote:
> On 2011-02-11 3:35 PM, Kevin Hunter wrote:
> > How the quickstarter works is have use gobs of memory effectively
> > sitting idle. That doesn't work. Many of us in the computing,
> > engineering, physics, and chemical fields *use* our computational
> > resources.
>
> 75MB is not 'gobs' - that or we live in very different realities.

Yes, it is gobs.  If you have 4GB+, perhaps it's not, but not everyone 
has 4GB+.  Particularly in non-Western countries.  I have just returned 
from Ethiopia, for example, where owning a computer is rare; for those 
who do, 256 MB is common.  I suspect that we *do* live in different 
realities.

> RAM is extremely cheap these days.

If $100 bucks is cheap to you, then so be it.  It's not to me, a 
graduate student.

> > The short answer is that the quickstarter doesn't count: I want it
> > to load as fast or faster than MSO /without/ the quickstarter. MSO
> > can do it, from a cold boot, fast. Why can't LO?
>
> Strawman... MSO *does* have a quickstarter, but it is invisible - hidden
> in the OS startup processes...

Please point me to documentation of this hidden quickstarter.  The MS 
version that I'm aware of is this program:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290144

It's called Osa, and is an optional component to run at startup.  If you 
want to argue the relative startup times, please try it for yourself, 
both with the Osa running, and without.  If you still get different 
results than these, then all I can say is that we must have dissimilar 
test methodologies; I can confirm this relative speed on at least 6 
boxes of varying age and hardware capabilities.

On one particular 4 year-old machine, with 1G of system RAM, and without 
the OOo Quickstarter or MS' osa program running, rebooting for each 
trial, and opening the same 2003 Word (.doc) document:

MSO 2003:  8s  (average of 3 boots)
OOo 3.3:  17s  (average of 3 boots)

Regards,

Kevin

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