Re: [tdf-discuss] An Interesting Mockup

On 17-01-2011 18:31, Paulo José wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm the mock-ups creator. It's the firt time that I use a mail list 
> like that and english is not my own language, so I'm not sure if I'm 
> doing it right.
>
> First, thank you Animesh Meher for starting this threat.
>
> I totally agree with Zaphod for a decent discussion on the LibO's UI. 
> And the Microsoft's mistake is a good guideline to help this process. 
> It been said, I would like to help you if it's possible. I'm not a 
> professional designer, but I'm a Computer Science student and art is 
> part of my whole live. I worked some years with Corel Draw and 
> Photoshop and the last 5 years with Blender, Inkscape (1.000.000x 
> better than Corel) and Gimp.
>
> I'm a big Blender Foundation fan and when they were working on a 
> completly new interface for Blender (my guess it was over 2008) many 
> people has afraid of what would be it. The first releases was very 
> simple and disgusting, since it was a big change and "everything" 
> should be relearned. There was many noise on it for months. But 
> finally, in 2009,the Blender Foundation showed a polished interface, 
> very very different from the original one. Users become to apreciate 
> it and to learn more about it. Today, the new interface is the think I 
> most apreciate in Blender: it's the top of customization, it's 
> beautiful, it's completely usable. But there's no perfect UIs, so they 
> keep changing it to get closer to what the users want. And the users 
> *really* discuss about it, i.e. in the BlenderArtists forum.
>
> I really hope to see this process of reconstruction happening to 
> LibreOffice. Since its a revival of the closed OpenOffice, I see a big 
> potential to become a highlight office suite on Linux desktops. But I 
> see the need of a important refresh on UI. Just like Blender did.
>
> Well, I'm sure it's over me, but I'm here if you need of my efforts. 
> I'm not capable to code satisfastorily in C, Java or Python yet, but I 
> hope this halfyear I'll become to learn how to do that. Right now I 
> just know HTML, CSS and basic programing.
>
> Kudos for the LibO development team!
> ~Paulo José
>
>     "Zaphod Feeblejocks" wrote:
>     I'm all for a decent discussion on the UI, and appreciate the comment on the
>     side-bar.
>     Could the current top-bar with icons etc be made moveable (just as the Win 95
>     start bar
>     was, when I moved to the side it by accident and couldn't get it back to the
>     bottom.... ah,
>     memories...)
>
>     However, we need to avoid Microsoft's mistake of forcing their Ribbon on
>     people, without
>     letting them have a 'Classic' interface.  (1) the Ribbon lacks consistency; (2)
>     Office 2007
>     had 60% global market share in summer 2010 - a failure by Microsoft's
>     standards.  Office
>     2003 had 20% - many of whom were Ribbon refusenicks.  The other 20% was a
>     steadily
>     growing OOo.
>
>     Granted, the current LibO/OOo interface looks dated, but people know their way
>     round it - at
>     least the know how to find the things they use.  Some things are far too clumsy
>     (e.g. mail-
>     merging).  A sudden change would drive people (well, me) back over to OOo.
>
>     Let's reach a proper concensus.
>
> --
> Paulo José O. Amaro
> Computer Science Student
> Federal University of São João del-Rei
> WebDesigner / Linked Empresa Júnior
> Blogger / casatwain.com

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