Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibO Beta 2 Writer/Web (Html Document)

I've tried to delist and I am still getting emails.

One of the things that I pointed out was that <span></span> tags were
being saved in the html document with no content - that would seem to
me to have been important to point out  - but I have left LiBO feeling
abused, and talked about by one of your people on another list - quite
unacceptable in the real world.

Attitudes appear to me to be the issue and I have a  lot to get done
without having to fight through such unncessary time wasting things.

I've given up, and have tried to delist from all LiBO stuff for now, and have
taken LiBO off and I am  putting Oracle's OOO on again for now until
if/there is a change of heart on how LiBO is run.

I had some real issues with the Writer/Web html format and
functionality, and I can't believe how my postings were handled on
help+user list.

I was even asked why I was using LiBO for making web forms and not
some other FOSS, yet the person coiuld not name to me another WYSIWYG
html designer for Xp.  All I was doing was what LiBO says it will do,
and I wanted to help them debug the Beta where it was not saving
things properly.

I've been in unsalaried community work for nearly 30 years now and
know that even though you do things for free, you still have to have a
service attitude in your heart.

I was really hopeful when I saw the break form Oracle - now I am very
unsure, basic disciplines seem to be missing in your free-for-all
round-about that maybe a formal corporate environment better helps the
public with? I hope you prove that wrong, for the many schools,
not-for-profits and poorer members of the public who would like/
really NEED to see LiBO suceeed.

You guys have taken upon yourselves a very big public responsability -
but I do not know if you yet recognise any accountability to any one
other than yourselves.

Paul

On 19 October 2010 14:18, Jon Hamkins <hamkins@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote:
> I'm sorry we couldn't help you, Paul.  We are all trying to be helpful where
> we can, and with so much going on, there are a lot of loose, unanswered
> ends, or misunderstandings.  I hope you stick around and get your answers.
>
>     ----Jon
>
> On 10/18/2010 05:21 PM, Paul A Norman wrote:
> > I'm delisting from all Libre Office connections that is a complete
> > misreperesntation of the situation and rude to boot.
> >
> > You people really do appear to  have no care for Users at all.
> >
> > There are many valid problems still in that thread, but I could not
> > care at all now.
> >
> > BYE
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > On 19 October 2010 13:17, Andy Brown<andy@the-martin-byrd.net>  wrote:
> > > On Mon Oct 18 2010 00:43:11 GMT-0700 (PDT)  Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
> > > > Sorry to be chiming in here a bit late...
> > > > In case you haven't found the answer yet, it's in the File>  Export
> > > > menu. That's where it is in OOo 3.2.1 also.
> > > >
> > > > Whenever you can't find something in Save As, look in Export as well.
> > > > Yes, I agree that it's a technical difference that makes no sense or
> > > > difference to ordinary users.
> > > >
> > > > --Jean
> > >
> > > G'day Jean,
> > >
> > > As you had ask Paul moved this over to the Users list, I will get a link
> > > if
> > > you want.  I tried to answer his questions, and found that the problems,
> > > to
> > > me, were not problems but a misunderstanding on his part. I as where he
> > > when
> > > he had used OOo to build web pages, when he had used web tools in OOo,
> > > etc.
> > >  At the end of the message I ask why he would want to use a word
> > > processor
> > > to build web pages.  Well he keyed off of that one question and got all
> > > defensive.  And started blowing off.  I replied to some of his message
> > > and
> > > still have not got a straight answer.
>
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