Re: [tdf-discuss] OpenSuSE and Libò

Il 14/10/2010 12:12, Petr Mladek ha scritto:
> > On Wed, 2010-10-13 at 17:44 +0200, Carlo Strata wrote:
> > > Hi Everyone,
> > >
> > > this is my first TDF post! :-)
> > >
> > > I'm an active and long time OpenSuSE and Novell's OOo user and bug
> > > poster, too!
> > >
> > > Now, in my OpenSuSE daily updated 11.2, x86-64, notebook I have
> > > Novell/OpenSuSE OBS OOo 3.2.1.6 (x86-64) (still with the famous fixed
> > > but not released pdf bug
> > > https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=615812).
>
> More helping hands are always welcome. Feel free to add the fix to the
> package, see http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Build_Service_Collaboration

Ciao Petr! Thank you!

I'd like to make it, but I'm not sure using how much time! Sure there is 
a more efficient person to do that. And for 3.2.1.x branch remaining 
life it is convenient that is so. If you take a look to the bug history 
(last few comments) you could see Debian has already added (merged) and 
relaesed this fix: now I'm asking why the "system" force me repeating a 
task that at least one person has already done all over the world. ;-)

More communication, information exchange between distros and between 
distros and main project portals and newer ideas are needed by XXI 
century social/cloud development: I'm waiting something revolutionary in 
this meaning from TDF!!!

Efficiency means more reliable and functionality richer code!!!

If you look for my Novell/OpenSuSE issues you see that, until now, I had 
been a bug poster and a bug documenting provider, sometime enhancement 
suggester too. But in the life we never know the future... ;-)

Surely I'll read that collaborating page...


> > > My two questions are:
> > >
> > > 1. May OOo 3.2.1.x/3.3.x and Libò coexist (in the same operating system
> > > instance, I mean)? At least in linux? May I go on with just downloaded
> > > Libò x86-64 beta2?
>
> LibreOffice is continuation of the OpenOffice.org project. We do not
> plan to provide OpenOffice.org-3.3 for openSUSE. Instead of we are going
> to provide libreoffice-*-3.3* packages that will replace the older
> OpenOffice_org packages during the system update.
>
> Note that we newer provided the plain OOo packages for openSUSE. We
> always added the extra patches from the Go-oo project. We are still
> going to use these extra changes on top of the LibreOffice code.

About this there would be many things to say... wouldn't it?

From the upper bug history people could see that we know 
Novell/OpenSuSE OOo is from Go-OO (e.g. 1 million rows in Calc...!) and 
with the whole features set here
http://go-oo.org/discover/

Until OOo - Oracle thread is still foggy, Libò must be identical to 
vanilla OOo and you/we must still merge remaining Go-OO exclusive 
features over and in Libò...

I hope we soon stop wasting human being time (developer and user too) 
and refuse creating regression like upper bug is.

We all hope Oracle give the whole OOo world, infrastructure, rights, 
names, and so on to TDF so that we (OOo, Go-OO, NeoO, OOo4Kids, ... and 
Libò) develop only once. Deo Gratias!


> If you want more packages in parallel, you might use the universal
> LibreOffice Linux packages. They might be installed in parallel with the
> universal OOo packages, old openSUSE OpenOffice_org packages and the
> upcoming openSUSE libreoffice packages. It is because they are installed
> into /opt/libreoffice while the others are installed
> below /opt/openoffice*, /usr/lib/ooo3, /usr/lib/libreoffice

You are simply the best! The clearest person all over the World! :-)
Thank you!


> > > 2. When does Novell/OpenSuSE start to build Libò in his (our!) OBS?
>
> I have created the LibreOffice:Unstable project in OBS yesterday. I am
> running a first test build there. If it goes well, I would publish the
> libreoffice-3.3-beta2 packages on Friday or Monday.
>
> It means that the packages might appear at
> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/LibreOffice:/Unstable over the
> weekend or in the beginning of the following week.

So I'll probably wait your builds instead of using the universal 
LibreOffice Linux packages.


> > It's now time for Novell and OpenSuSE whole Community to start giving
> > solid/concrete Libò/TDF support signs! :-)
>
> Sure. We do out best. There are just too many things to do.
>
> > Thank you very much for your great work, ideas and answers! Have a
> > nice evening
>
> Thanks for support and understanding.

You are always welcome!

> Best Regards,
> Petr

Sunny day,

Carlo

> PS: Please, keep me in CC if you want fater answer. I have many unread
> mails on the mailing list :-(

Mee too, but I'm happy with TDF time! :-)

>

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