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On Tuesday 05 Oct 2010 03:27:04 Thorsten Behrens wrote:
Graham Lauder wrote:
We don't "own" anything. We have simply started the process, and we
have tried to push it forward putting all our enthusiasm and energies


I'm sorry, if it's offlist, then for the majority of community members it


secret. That may not seem that way to you, but for the vast majority of t


community it is.
You can see how this can give the impression that we have another Sun
situation going on, critical decisions made away from the community with
a fait accompli handed to us on a plate.  "Here you are, like it or lump


Yes, we're aware of that danger. Please do remind us on our
obligation to be open and transparent (see our mission statement)
anytime you see a problem.

Our excuse is that we tried to involve at least one prominent
representative from each group inside the large OOo family, and
taking their suggestions seriously.

To paraphrase Italo - we basically drafted the train, laid the first
ten meters of tracks - and now it's up to all of us to write the
future. What generally works best for each of you individually is to
actually do something - there's an abundance of stuff waiting to
be done - and she who does, usually decides. That's why we called for
a meritocracy.

Aah you see there you go being all reasonable, very hard to stay pissed in the 
face of such reasonableness 

What would have been so hard about putting together something to
post to all the lists at the same time as the press release.
It seems there were some areas, like looking after the community,
that were ignored. (Odd since it says "open and transparent" in
the Vision Statement)

Hm, I thought we had quite some posts - most prominently the one on
the announce list? If you personally felt left in the dark, please
accept my apologies - there were no bad intentions, just that a few
things got dropped apparently - we're a huge community by all kinds
of measure.

And of course announce is probably the one I don't subscribe to, a mention on 
MarCon or PR would have been nice to alert those of us who, can't get to 
conferences and who were bound to get a barrage of questions that something 
was about to happen and help us with a response.  I really do hate being left 
hung out to dry

How were we to know how long this had been going on, this secret
society, planning on the quiet.  Even now a week after the press
were told we're only getting some info in dribs and drabs because
some of the secret society seem to be getting a guilt attack.

What info are you missing?

Most I've probably worked out and that stuff I haven't, I made up using 
educated guesswork. 

Oracle made an interim response, do we have link to that somewhere.

Michael Meeks is in the heart of this, what's Novells role

Google has thrown it's oar in, in support, will there be any more than lip 
service or will they front, maybe with server space.

The response from the corporates seemed quick, were they brought in before the 

Where does IBM and Symphony fit in, if at all.

When was the anticipated release date, has any been set.

Can I rewrite the Vision and Mission please, it really sucks right now.  :)

OK you've done the easy bit when can we start on the Hard stuff  ;)

Oh and by the way, I'm with Italo:  I Like LibO  the rest of the letters are 


-- Thorsten


Graham Lauder, MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ Migration and training Consultant.

INGOTs Assessor Trainer
(International Grades in Open Technologies)
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