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Am 09.04.22 um 08:51 schrieb Heiko Tietze:
If you take me as an external observer, the opposite is true.
Collabora is home for many experts, every single one always
supportive, and never acted against the interests of the project.

        Thank you for your kind words Heiko - much appreciated.

On 09/04/2022 13:17, Andreas Mantke wrote:
it's great to have a lot of certified developer, which are able to work
on LibreOffice. But if you have a look on e.g. you see that most
of them are contracted by Collabora.

A quick count shows 20/57 - around a third - which doesn't seem unreasonable.

And if you make a small research
inside the git log, you'll find out that the list at the website is not
up to date. There seemed to be further certified developers, stated as
unaffiliated, which are working for the company (with an appropriate

        Interesting, this "list is not up to date" is a novel problem.

Quite possibly our affiliation database etc. is out of date, and indeed keeping the certified developer list up-to-date takes time & effort, but - I'm struggling to see who you are talking about. Collabora has a commercial interest in having as many certified developers listed as possible - rather than hiding them =)

        For those interested in the minutia can see:

That is already not very simple - but in some cases it's more complicated than a straightforward affiliation; eg. you will see rather rare examples like:

commit 828504974d70111e4a35b31d579cf42fe660a660
Author: Armin Le Grand (Collabora) <>
Date:   Fri Feb 21 16:58:17 2020 +0100

    tdf#130768 speedup huge pixel graphics Cairo

        but actually:

commit 9c526b557e264280cb0c9da704245494f5ec5af3
Author: Armin Le Grand (Allotropia) <>
Date:   Fri Mar 4 16:51:07 2022 +0100

    Advanced Diagram support: Allow reLayout without keeping oox::Shape

Armin is working with Allotropia ~all the time. I don't think that need concern anyone - many contractors have the (important) liberty to do work for other people from time to time.

        But ... ? I'm not aware of a significant inaccuracy overall.

As a general comment though - if you find a bug: that's normal please help us fix it by improving whatever list it is you're worried about with a clear bug report. I didn't manage to see that with a small research of my own - can you help ?

        Thanks !


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