Re: [board-discuss] Drafting Tender "Cleanup & further improve ODF conformance"

Hello everyone,

the below mail is a bit older - Christmas break and some other tenders 
came in between, so I get to this only now.

Florian Effenberger wrote on 01.12.21 at 15:30:

> > (1)
> > The link http://autotests.opendocumentformat.org from item "Required 
> > 1." does not work.
> > Do you have another reference for ODFAutoTests?
>
> unfortunately not - I can confirm the website is not loading, so I'll 
> replace the reference with the Git repo pointed out by Michael Stahl in 
> the meantime.

This is done in https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/ggqpciBK54rztJi

> > (2)
> > The search result from item "Required 2." contains Meta-issues. 
> > Expanding them results in 80 issues.
> >
> > Using Whiteboard as search criteria has no advantage compared to the 
> > Meta-issues. And I think both, Whitheboard search or Meta-issues, are 
> > not suitable for a tender, but a tender needs to list the issues 
> > explicitly.
> >
> > The list from Whiteboard search and Meta-issues needs to be examined 
> > and prioritized manually.
>
> This is taken from the specification at 
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2021#Cleanup_.26_further_improve_ODF_conformance 
>
>
> I fear answering that question is beyond my skills. ;-) Does it make 
> sense to bounce this question back to the ESC for further specification?

Regina (thanks a lot!) sent a list of bugs back in December on the dev 
mailing list: 
https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2021-December/088210.html

Was there any further discussion or feedback on this? If the list 
mentioned there is fine, I replace item 2 from the tender with it. If 
we're unsure whether that meets the budget or not, as the person days 
are listed in the tender, we can add a note along the lines of "Please 
propose a subset and prioritization of these bugs, that do not exceed 
the person days factored in for this tender, see below."

> > (3)
> > Is it possible to get
> > https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48392
> > ODF: Implementation for svg:linearGradient and svg:radialGradient is 
> > missing
> > as explicit issue for "Required"?
> > We had this already as suggestion "Multi-color gradient" in
> > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2021
> > and now again in
> > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2022
>
> I've added it. Not sure, however, how much that would change the 
> work/cost estimate of the tender.

This is in the draft. We can add a similar note as mentioned above if 
we're unsure about the work required.

> Michael Stahl wrote on 03.11.21 at 10:49:
>
> > the scope of this is quite large and unclear... *required* items are:
> >
> > 1. ODFAutoTests: addressing issues will be difficult because as Regina 
> > points out the web service appears to be offline.
> >    IIRC it's possible to run the tests offline, but currently i guess 
> > nobody knows how much work it is to set that up and what problems 
> > would actually be found, so i guess this item mostly amounts to "get 
> > ODFAutoTests to run at all".
>
> I've tried to rephrase #1 a bit, let me know if this is better.

Is the current wording fine?

> Given the amount of changes from the original tender, I wonder if it 
> makes sense to bounce this back to the ESC and discuss it in one of the 
> next calls? We have the autoupdater tender discussion tomorrow already, 
> so maybe it's a bit on too short notice and would fill the agenda too 
> much, but it could be a topic in one of the next calls? Or is it better 
> to suggest the above list via e-mail and use it if people are fine with it?

Let me know if discussing this in an ESC call works, or if you prefer to 
continue discussion on the development list, before we finalize the text 
here on board-discuss.

Thanks,
Florian

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