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Re: [board-discuss] LibreOffice Personal & TDF's statutes & purpose

On 2020/07/09 16:54, Italo Vignoli wrote:
On 7/9/20 6:35 PM, Aravind Palla wrote:

- that there will be no change of license;

Based on what you assume there can be a change of license, the marketing
plan says exactly the opposite, i.e. we do stay loyal to the copyleft
license, which is one of the pillars of the project.

It really doesn't matter what the license says.

People that have years of experience in software support will see
"personal edition", and "intended for individual usage", and jump to the
conclusion that what is meant, is identical to what Microsoft meant.

_Microsoft Office 2000 Personal Edition_, _Microsoft Office 2003 Basic_,
_Microsoft Office 2007 Basic_, _Microsoft Office 2003 Personal_,
_Microsoft Office 2010 Personal_, and _Microsoft Office 2010 Starter
were for non-commercial use only. "Non-Commercial" had a very narrow

_Microsoft Office XP Student and Teacher_, _Microsoft Office 2003
Student and Teacher_, Microsoft Office 2007 Home and Student_,
_Microsoft Office 2010 Home and Student_, _Microsoft Office 2013 Home
and Student_, and _Microsoft Office 2016 Home and Student_ editions are
for academic, or home use only. Other non-commercial usage is implicitly

I know what the MPL 2.0 license allows, and you know what that license
allows, but is the risk-adverse PHB going to look at the license, or is
s/he going to be like Roman's "stupid policeman" (Bug 108865 C25) and
claim that software can not be gratis? Or go one step further and claim
the MPL 2.0 has no legal merit, or standing? (Once upon a time, the US
based  _Software Business Alliance_ did claim that all FLOSS licenses
were ipso facto illegal.)

- that there will be no 'exclusive' features for the proposed enterprise edition other than 
dedicated support like priority bug-fixing, help, etc.;

Same as above.

That is ignoring that existing editions of LibreOffice, rebranded for
the SOHO & SMB market, that have features that are not in the version
distributed from https:///

More pointedly, how will either TDF, or the LibreOffice community
prevent those organisations from continuing to offer their rebranded
edition of LibreOffice, with their exclusive features?

Sorry, but speculating on topics which are not even mentioned by the
marketing plan does not help at all. Using the word personal, as in
personal computer, does not imply anything of the above.

Microsoft has redefined "personal", and any marketing plan that fails to
take that into account, is ignoring reality. "Personal" has a number of
implications , which, based upon responses by TDF board members, were
completely, utterly, and absolutely lost on the board.

also to avoid the potential issues of the word "community", 

Unfortunately, the AGPL license pretty much required that "community" be
redefined to be "cripple ware that you can use, if you know how to write
the software that is needed, to utilise the program as described and
envisioned by the developers, _if_ you are also willing to run afoul of
their legal department."


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