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[board-discuss] Re: Some problems.


This is my feedback from a community member point of view.

* LibreOffice is at serious risk

If I need help as a community contributor I get a lot of feedback from
Heiko which is fine and very welcome. If I need coding support it's not
that easy cause there is no person from TDF who will support contributors
with coding work. So I can do whatever I want - which is fine - however I
can do it myself - which will blog for example design group ideas from <
2015. So we need more developers. Sometimes people from the ecosystem do
help (me) for good will.
* How to pay for LibreOffice development?

On the download page users can pay for LibreOffice or get
it for free. TDF gets the money from the donations (1.5 million), but how
do they donate? Enterprises or private/home users? I got the feedback that
private users donate to TDF enterprises using LibreOffice for free without
donation. Would you donate for LibreOffice if you work for the Cabinet
Office in the UK? I would say, the employer thinks that the Cabinet pays
for LibreOffice. No employer would donate to the software the enterprise
offers. So TDF didn't get money for the future of LibreOffice from

But the ecosystem partners have developers who add new features to
LibreOffice and these features get paid from enterprises. Yes the features
get paid otherwise they won't get implemented. Since 2018 Colabora didn't
sold the Colabora Office suite on the desktop. How will pay for features
when there are no employers?

The French government uses LibreOffice and has a support company. That's
perfect, but the support company is no ecosystem partner so there is no
upstream work. Even worse they write bug reports to BZ and hope that
volunteers (or an ecosystem partner) fix them.

So for me it looks like private/home users donate to LibreOffice and
support the work but enterprises forget to give some revenue back. Is this

* Can there be a solution?

Sure there is one big solution: LibreOffice the brand name. 10 years after
OpenOffice there is the LibreOffice brand and as written it stands for good
quality. So let's use it.

+ Download page

Compare the following download pages:

In LibreOffice you have the download link and when the download starts you
go to the donaten page. In NextCloud you have the different platforms AND
Providers, Enterprise Solutions and many more. There is a direct link
between free download link and company support. Nobody will say NextCloud
is open core, but NextCloud promotes the complete ecosystem on the download

It would be a simple change to have the TDF download AND ecosystem
downloads on the webpage all together.

+ LibreOffice Brand

LibreOffice brand is  very good. But if you look at the windows store for
example there are LibreOffice apps you can pay for but they don't give any
revenue back to LibreOffice. French government support companies give and
revenue back, ... it's hard for ecosystem partners to win government
tenders cause they have to fight against companies that use LibreOffice for
free and don't support future development.

Here my idea is to use the LibreOffice Brand. If you see LibreOffice at
enterprises there should be an enterprise edition installed which can have
the same features as the TDF LibreOffice edition, but the enterprise means
that it will come from an TDF ecosystem partner. Maybe the enterprise
edition has LTS or an easier update feature or better integration with the
enterprise software landscape, ... whatever the ecosystem partners plan to
offer on the download page.

Working together is the way FOSS works best. LibreOffice is a success story
but the target is the flagship project from Microsoft, so we need all
resources to be competitive.



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