The difference is that
1. those other things basically work
2. people are working on them
3. new people are attracted to work on them
In complete contrast Base apparently has
1. NO-ONE working on it
2. It doesn't work
3. It's horribly complicated
Base is the only app that almost every question can only be solved by getting
stuck into coding or extensively trouble-shooting and regression-testing
dependencies. Problems in other apps tend to be able to be solved by normal
office users that may have no programming skills at all.
It seems that we have 3 possible routes
1. Ignore the problems and watch as Base continues to crumble away and lie to
new users that we have a database program when we really don't.
2. Drop Base and be honest that we don't have an integrated database program.
3. Step-up and manage.
From: Michael Meeks <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Sent: Mon, 1 August, 2011 12:54:23
Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base record access
On Wed, 2011-07-27 at 19:26 +0100, Tom Davies wrote:
I think most of the companies i mentioned already employ devs to work on
projects relevant to those organisations. If they could each give one person
half a week to Base
Sure - but if they could each give one person have a week to: improving
the UI, accelerating import, fixing most annoying bugs, creating unit
tests, ... < insert any number of potential problems > - then we could
also make progress.
However - instead of this, we have people complaining and trying to
tell other people what to do :-) That actually kills developer time,
because they have to respond to the griping by pointing out the obvious
lack of resources, the way that reality is shaped - and asking people to
be more constructive with their time - by actually getting involved
If some of those companies had direct control over half a dev
So - if some individuals, who have direct control over their own work
schedule, could sit down and contribute then we'd get a long way too :-)
I don't think TDF can afford to wait until people get annoyed enough (as RMS
suggests) because it's easier for people to just stay with other products and
the rest of the Suite they come with. A little work and leadership in taking
Base forwards might even attract a lot of volunteers to it instead or runing
So - go for it ! you want to win eternal fame & glory, and find
yourself a well paid job hacking base: sign up now - get experienced
with the code, improve it, make noise about your success.
Failing that - your resourcing concerns belong on a single list: the
Most of the co-operatives i have worked in have paid consultants, part-time
workers, accountants, lawyers and all the rest when and where needed.
Many of the ones that refused to do so folded or got absorbed.
Fine - so start a co-operative to work on LibreOffice, and fund these
guys to do the work you want to tell them to do, and to meet your
particular priorities. Failing that, do some fund raising yourself to
get an existing bespoke development company (say Lanedo) to do the work
All the best,
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