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Re: [tdf-discuss] OOXML ECMA-376, transitionnal and strict


You can ask in the Microsoft open specifications forum:
https://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-us/home?category=openspecifications

But, please, be polite, people there can have another perspective of this matter and expressions like MS$ doesn't help

The 'transitional' variant of ooxml is specified in Part 4 of ISO/IEC 29500 so it's standard, it's supposed that the features of the transitional variant ease the transition from older formats, I'm not sure if there is a plan for making the strict variant the default in MS Office, in Office 2016 it's not yet

Best regards

El 26/04/16 a les 12:46, mjollnir66@laposte.net ha escrit:
So.

Is it correct to say that the Transitionnal OOXML format is not compliant with any international standard or norm ? Neither ECMA, nor ISO, nor anything but MS$ itself.

If so,
Does this means that NO version of MS$ office (from 2010 to the actual) writes BY DEFAULT in a standardized or normalised format.
(cf. https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc179191%28v=office.16%29.aspx for default formats)

Is anyone confident enough in his knowledge of OOXML to acknowledge this ?
Maybe this place is not the best one to ask the question ?
If so, would please somebody advice me the best place to post the question ?


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De: "Florian Reisinger" <florei@libreoffice.org>
À: mjollnir66@laposte.net, discuss@documentfoundation.org
Envoyé: Mardi 26 Avril 2016 13:26:12
Objet: Re: [tdf-discuss] OOXML ECMA-376, transitionnal and strict



Short answer: Any release (2007,2010,2013,2016) has it's own transitional format. AFAIK



< mjollnir66@laposte.net > schrieb am Di., 26. Apr. 2016, 10:13:


Hello,

I'm a french user willing to get some answers about OOXML format.
This post is already released on the fr.discuss mailing list.

As you may know, something changing the game just happened in France.
The second version of the Interoperability General Refenrential was just released.
It demands all the public administrations (by law) to conform to certain file formats when the exchanged from administration to administration or from a citizen to an administration and vice et versa.

ODF is recommended.

OOXML strict is tolerated in some case.
OOXML transitionnal is not.
Binary older file formats are not either.

Thus, it becomes very interresting to investigate what's behind OOXML.

in this article :
https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/community/osor/case/complex-singularity-versus-openness

3 different OOXML formats are described :
"There is the ECMA version (that’s the one MS Office 2007 writes, which was certified by ECMA International). Then there is OOXML Transitional, which is relatively close to the ECMA version, and is the format that all later versions to date write as default. Finally, there is OOXML Strict."

In this MS$ tab :
https://blogs.office.com/2012/08/13/new-file-format-options-in-the-new-office/#DR3YrKG0ymm0vmwB.97
Only two OOXML formats are described : transitionnal and strict

A very simple question to an OOXML specialist :

Is transitionnal OOXML ECMA-376 compliant ?

If not, is transitionnal OOXML compliant with any norm or standard ?

Best regards and thanks in advance for any answer.

M.





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