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Re: [tdf-discuss] Suggestion for Icons


Changing icons in minor versions is probably not a good idea.
Yeah I agree.

Changing the floppy Icon has outdated ALL books about
OpenOffice/LibreOffice that have been written, >including textbooks. Such
changes might happen in major versions, always allowing the users to use
the old >theme, but a forced changed disconnects the products from all the
efforts and materials that have been >made to support its distribution...
and in many cases makes it unusable.

EVEN for countries in the third world, relying on textbooks, dead
documents, for a software which is very much alive makes little sense. The
future is here, why not take it and use it at once. Free wiki's are
everywhere. Wikia.com is a great place to start. Relying on textbooks just
won't cut it in 2012.


In Cambodia, OpenOffice is used in all the school system... considering
changing to LibreOffice with icons >that are different than the ones in the
official textbook is just not possible, it would just create lots of
confusion for teachers and students, and that is exactly what we do not
need. The system might change to a >new interface when it wants.... but not
when LibreOffice developers decide to change, it is just not possible >to
print new textbooks.

Yet, I do see your point that you are trying to comply with the legacy of
OpenOffice. We all know how legacy dependency can hurt a software project.
In particular a project where competition is intense and competitors are
using dirty tricks. But okay I won't entertain the idea to ditch break with
this legacy, for now.

But I still believe that the user interface *NEEDS* more work and both
finegrained pixel-hunts as well as moving away from the MS Office-2000
style.

With the best of intentions
-A


On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:36 AM, Javier Sola <lists@khmeros.info> wrote:

Changing icons in minor versions is probably not a good idea.

Changing the floppy Icon has outdated ALL books about
OpenOffice/LibreOffice that have been written, including textbooks. Such
changes might happen in major versions, always allowing the users to use
the old theme, but a forced changed disconnects the products from all the
efforts and materials that have been made to support its distribution...
and in many cases makes it unusable.

In Cambodia, OpenOffice is used in all the school system... considering
changing to LibreOffice with icons that are different than the ones in the
official textbook is just not possible, it would just create lots of
confusion for teachers and students, and that is exactly what we do not
need. The system might change to a new interface when it wants.... but not
when LibreOffice developers decide to change, it is just not possible to
print new textbooks.

Cheers,

Javier


On 2/15/12 7:39 PM, firstname lastname wrote:

Hi all

Guys the icons are one of the key features of Libre Office's interface.
Some of the stock icons on the Libre Office default theme need some more
work I feel.

OPEN - this icon is really grey and dull
SAVE - okay, so the floppy is gone. I would have loved to keep it, but I
won't get into that.
But if you ARE going for a green downwards arrow, it needs to be cleerer
than this.

DOCUMENT AS EMAIL - This feature is really reduntant and clutters up the
user experience.

PDF ICON - The export to PDF icon is not clear enough. It needs to say PDF
in MASSIVE
letters, not some text you can almost not read.


These are my comments to the icons in the current interface.

But why can't we create an interface that is really inviting to newer
users,
which does not acommodate to the users with conservative preferences.

Pick up any MacOSX application and they are mostly so inviting and "fun"
to
use.
Why can't Libre Office be that? Massively larger icon-toolbars is a start,
and shouldn't
be very hard to make. I have the pixel-space available for this on my
screen. Do you?

Best of regards,
A



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