Re: [tdf-discuss] Suggestion for Icons

> Changing icons in minor versions is probably not a good idea.
Yeah I agree.

> Changing the floppy Icon has outdated ALL books about
OpenOffice/LibreOffice that have been written, >including textbooks. Such
changes might happen in major versions, always allowing the users to use
the old >theme, but a forced changed disconnects the products from all the
efforts and materials that have been >made to support its distribution...
and in many cases makes it unusable.

EVEN for countries in the third world, relying on textbooks, dead
documents, for a software which is very much alive makes little sense. The
future is here, why not take it and use it at once. Free wiki's are
everywhere. Wikia.com is a great place to start. Relying on textbooks just
won't cut it in 2012.


> In Cambodia, OpenOffice is used in all the school system... considering
changing to LibreOffice with icons >that are different than the ones in the
official textbook is just not possible, it would just create lots of
> confusion for teachers and students, and that is exactly what we do not
need. The system might change to a >new interface when it wants.... but not
when LibreOffice developers decide to change, it is just not possible >to
print new textbooks.

Yet, I do see your point that you are trying to comply with the legacy of
OpenOffice. We all know how legacy dependency can hurt a software project.
In particular a project where competition is intense and competitors are
using dirty tricks. But okay I won't entertain the idea to ditch break with
this legacy, for now.

But I still believe that the user interface *NEEDS* more work and both
finegrained pixel-hunts as well as moving away from the MS Office-2000
style.

With the best of intentions
-A


On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:36 AM, Javier Sola <lists@khmeros.info> wrote:

> Changing icons in minor versions is probably not a good idea.
>
> Changing the floppy Icon has outdated ALL books about
> OpenOffice/LibreOffice that have been written, including textbooks. Such
> changes might happen in major versions, always allowing the users to use
> the old theme, but a forced changed disconnects the products from all the
> efforts and materials that have been made to support its distribution...
> and in many cases makes it unusable.
>
> In Cambodia, OpenOffice is used in all the school system... considering
> changing to LibreOffice with icons that are different than the ones in the
> official textbook is just not possible, it would just create lots of
> confusion for teachers and students, and that is exactly what we do not
> need. The system might change to a new interface when it wants.... but not
> when LibreOffice developers decide to change, it is just not possible to
> print new textbooks.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Javier
>
>
> On 2/15/12 7:39 PM, firstname lastname wrote:
>
> > Hi all
> >
> > Guys the icons are one of the key features of Libre Office's interface.
> > Some of the stock icons on the Libre Office default theme need some more
> > work I feel.
> >
> > OPEN - this icon is really grey and dull
> > SAVE - okay, so the floppy is gone. I would have loved to keep it, but I
> > won't get into that.
> > But if you ARE going for a green downwards arrow, it needs to be cleerer
> > than this.
> >
> > DOCUMENT AS EMAIL - This feature is really reduntant and clutters up the
> > user experience.
> >
> > PDF ICON - The export to PDF icon is not clear enough. It needs to say PDF
> > in MASSIVE
> > letters, not some text you can almost not read.
> >
> >
> > These are my comments to the icons in the current interface.
> >
> > But why can't we create an interface that is really inviting to newer
> > users,
> > which does not acommodate to the users with conservative preferences.
> >
> > Pick up any MacOSX application and they are mostly so inviting and "fun"
> > to
> > use.
> > Why can't Libre Office be that? Massively larger icon-toolbars is a start,
> > and shouldn't
> > be very hard to make. I have the pixel-space available for this on my
> > screen. Do you?
> >
> > Best of regards,
> > A
>
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