Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [tdf-announce] LibreOffice 3.3.2 is now available

On 2011-03-23 1:04 AM, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote:
> Le 22/03/2011 14:17, Charles Marcus a écrit :
> > Questions...
> >
> > 1. Why is the help pack separate?
> >
> > It isn't that big, and separating it from the main install - which is
> > something OOo NEVER did - just complicates the installation process.
> >
> > Also - when an update to LibO is posted, is an updated help file also
> > automatically posted?

> Please read the long discussions about this decision in the ml archives.

Which list? When? Comments like this *without a reference* irritate me
no end. If you know about the discussion it is almost trivial for you to
find a reference - since I'm obviously not aware of it, I may or may not
every find it.

> It is not only an issue related to the size of install files. Doing help
> available on the wiki, is a mean to easily update the help and better
> keep it synchronized with the code.

I'm not suggesting to not use the help on the wiki, but locally
available help is a must for many people.

Again - it is only @ 8MB. It isn't saving hardly anything with regard to
file size, and only complicates the installation process for those of us
(majority?) who want locally available help. I have also had many people
(I do tech support for a living) ask me why they don't have any help
when they are disconnected from the internet - they don't even KNOW help
doesn't come with the normal install.

Purely and simply, if this was an intentional decision, it was poorly
made, and needs to be rectified.

> > I am getting VERY tired of having to do a custom install on and
> > disabling DOZENS of foreign language dictionaries that I do not want or
> > need.

> You have only to disable globally  the installation of dictionaries and
> then enable only the dictionaries that you need. Two clicks if you want
> only one dictionary.

Well, thanks for that (kind of obvious now that you mention it), but
I'll reiterate:

Every other program that I have ever installed defaults to ONLY the
language the OS is running in - selecting other languages is *always*
something that must be intentionally done.

Defaulting to all is ignorant.

> > I know that disk space was a problem/concern initially, but it has been
> > long enough... please provide smaller individual language builds.

> Disk space is a problem for servers and the most the total size of
> install set is big the most the time to synchronize mirrors is long.

As it is for every other software package out there. It was promised
that this huge all inclusive download was a TEMPORARY situation until
more server space was available - I hope the developers to honor that
commitment.

These 3 issues are the biggest complaints I get when referring people to
LibO, and I'm sure I'm not the only one - I'm just trying to help make
things better for everyone...

-- 

Best regards,

Charles

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