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On 11/22/2010 06:37 PM, NoOp wrote:
On 11/22/2010 06:43 AM, Craig A. Eddy wrote:
...
René

It isn't so much that I administer a Debian release as that I USE a
Debian release and do what I can.  What I do is what I have managed to
learn to do over time, but without any formal training in UNIX, Linux,
administration, coding, or anything else.  That causes gaps in my
education that I freely admit.  I feel no shame for what I have learned
OR for what I haven't learned.  Not everyone can be as experienced as
you, nor can everyone feel as comfortable using CLI as you.  It is,
however why I feel comfortable asking questions or asking for help even
from complete strangers who might think less of me for my asking.

Not sure which Debian distro that you are using, but if you are using
Ubuntu you may find these helpful:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement
http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/maverick/man1/dpkg.1.html
and bookmark:
https://help.ubuntu.com/
  https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/index.html
https://help.ubuntu.com/community
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions

Note: I _think_ there are similar for standard Debian & other Debian
based distros.

In general; to install LO .deb files on an Ubuntu system (for others
that may have the same question):

1. http://www.documentfoundation.org/download/
Note the:
"You can also download using BitTorrent, or browse all the Beta3
installation packages to get unofficial Debian packages (32-bit .debs or
64-bit .debs), or language packs."
Click on the appropriate for your system (32-bit or 64-bit)
32-bit:
o
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/testing/3.3.0-beta3/deb/x86/LibO_3.3.0_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz
64-bit:
o
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/testing/3.3.0-beta3/deb/x86_64/LibO_3.3.0_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz

Or just use the "browse all the Beta3 installation packages" link to:
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/testing/3.3.0-beta3/
<http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/testing/3.3.0-beta3/deb/>
(32-bit example)
<http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/testing/3.3.0-beta3/deb/x86/>
Download:
 LibO_3.3.0_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz        15-Nov-2010 16:57       164M
Details

Important: the 'Details' link will give you md5sum/SHA/hash information
that you can use to verify the package download with.

2. Once the appropriate tar.gz file is downloaded; use Nautilus to
browse to the file download. Right click the tar.gz file and select
'Extract here'. Nautilus will then automatically extract the contents &
assign proper file permissions to a new folder:
LibO_3.3.0beta3_20101115_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US (in the case of
32-bit). Under that folder you will find 3 subfolders: DEBS, licences,
and readmes.
  The 'DEBS' (LibO_3.3.0beta3_20101115_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US/DEBS)
folder is the folder that contains all the .deb packages. It also
contains a subfolder 'desktop-integration' which contain the .deb
package for adding LO to your desktop menus.
Note the location of the
LibO_3.3.0beta3_20101115_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US/DEBS folder. [1]

3. Open a terminal (Applications|Accessories|terminal) and cd to the
location of the
LibO_3.3.0beta3_20101115_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US/DEBS folder. Example:

$ cd
/home/<username>/LibO_3.3.0beta3_20101115_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US/DEBS

Now install the .deb packages:

$ sudo dpkg -i *.deb

That will install all of the .deb packages in the system /opt folders
/opt/libreoffice and /opt/libreoffice3

Now install the menus:

$ cd desktop-integration
$ sudo dpkg -i *.deb

You now should have a working LO installed with menus added to
Applications|Office|LibreOffice... If the menus are not automatically
you may have to use:

$ sudo update-menus

or logout/login to get them to appear.

Note: when you start LO, your LO profile will be located in:
~/.libreoffice/3/user
(/home/<username>/.libreoffice/3/user)


[1] You can do all of this from the terminal rather than using Nautilus.
However I recommend using Nautilus to new users so that you will have an
graphical idea of were the files are located. To do from the terminal
cli only:

I. Open the terminal and cd to the location of the .tar.gz file.
II. Extract the .tar.gz file (again using the 32-bit file as an example):

$ tar xvzf LibO_3.3.0_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz

III. Now continue with #3 above.

I'm sure that someone can take all of that & make corrections & possibly
put in some pretty screenshots etc., but that is pretty much the way
that I do my installs & HTH.

One added note: if you wish to have multiple installs for testing
purposes, I've found the basic instructions for doing OOo parallel
installs helpful:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Run_OOo_versions_parallel
Of particular importance is the section on:
User directory configuration for 3.* versions



NoOp,

Thank you for posting the complete (as far as I can tell) instruction so
clearly.  Personally, I was fine up until dpkg -i *.deb.  dpkg is a
command that I had never used before, and knew nothing about.

To clarify, I am using Debian Testing (Squeeze/Sid).  When Ubuntu gave
up on me (I am unable to use PulseAudio, nor does it have any features
that I want or need) I gave up on it, including:

Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter – editor - resign
Fridge – editor – resign
Fridge Calendar – editor - resign
Arizona LoCo Team Newsletter – reporter – resign
Ubuntu Member – resign
Ubuntu Member email address – elimination
Ubuntu Member IRC host mask – elimination
Planet Ubuntu connection to my blog – elimination
“Adventures in a Perambulator” blog – elimination
Ubuntu wiki page – elimination
Ubuntu LaunchPad page – elimination
Ubuntu LaunchPad login – elimination
Ubuntu Forums – resign
Email lists – including administration:
ubuntu-news – resign
ubuntu-news-team – resign
ubuntu-us-az – resign
Website administration:
azloco.com – resign
ubuntu-us.org – resign

Contrary to unpopular belief (at least for me) I am not afraid of the
terminal.  I may prefer to use GUI where-ever and when-ever possible,
but I started with System V, Release 4 UNIX on a SPARC Workstation 1+,
including things like finding ways to do tape backup of AutoCAD drawings
for the company, and threatening to lock out the SysAdmin if he ever
again tried to lock me out of using super user to do the backups (among
other things, like reformatting - low level - the hard drives because
he'd overlapped the cylinders and caused the system to try to eat
itself).  Obviously, NONE of this was done using GUI.  After the company
went back to Windows (Win95, to be exact), my son emailed me from
college to ask if I could give him a list of useful UNIX commands.  I
did so, from memory, complete with information concerning what each
command was used for and how to find the man pages.  He is now working
in the NOC at Frontiernet, so I must have done something right.

Nor am I against learning.  Looking back on my 65 years of age, 47 of
which were as a working adult, EVERY job I've had has involved learning.
 Most of them involved learning on my own without any help.  And with
all of them I have exceeded what was expected of me.  And, as a matter
of fact (getting back to the subject at hand) once I'd been shown the
command to install LO, I had NO problems.  Check back in the mailing
list and you'll see that I even thanked the person that showed it to me
(Stefan Weigel - On 11/20/2010 08:04 AM UTC -7).  Oh, and I'm STILL
learning.

I am not a developer/programmer.  I am an end user.  All I can do to to
help with the development of LibreOffice is to ask for information
(which can lead to better and clearer instructions or the elimination of
bugs that I might not realize are bugs), and offer suggestions from the
point of view of an end user.  I can also try to promote LibreOffice
(marketing, in a sense), and offer thanks to the people who do the
difficult task of producing fine software.

If I haven't made it clear, Thank You, developers and producers of
LibreOffice.  I think you've made a good start, and am anxious awaiting
where you go from here.  I appreciate all the work you have done, and
the effort you are going through, now, with the rebirth of OO.o as
LibreOffice.  And NoOp, again, I thank you for taking the time and
effort to try to make it easier for others to install the .debs on
Debian and Debian derivatives (even Ubuntu :-)  ).

Thank you

Craig A. Eddy
Tyche

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