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On Nov 3, 2010, at 8:50 AM, drew wrote:
This email is prompted from reading a couple of the discussions going
on, or just recently having gone on.

This question of a new UI for LibreOffice for instance, is a good one to
move into what I wanted to touch on.

I believe the question itself is wrong - or to say it avoids looking at
other ways to achieve the goals of those wanting to explore options for

Basically what I want to say is this - I hope we find a way to construct
our association, or collective efforts, such that it fosters growth in a
lateral fashion, not just from the perspective of a single application.

Do we really want to say that we, our efforts, are only to support this
one application, LibreOffice?

Do we not want to rather say that we are all collectively working to
deliver the best possible tools for the document generation market? (ok,
not the best wording..)

I strongly agree with you. We need to approach the opportunity holistically, and address the 
underlying requirements, more than simply develop and promote a single application. A bundle of 
cooperative tools addressing different platforms and needs seems like the winning approach to my 

This new organization, freed from the dominance of a single vendor,
should not limit it's scope to only the this one artifact, brought from
the old, LibreOffice. Rather, I hope, it should be capable of supporting
new ideas, and new approaches. 

Certainly there are valid and proper, concerns with regards to
compatibility with OO.o with regards to LibreOffice now and going
forward. But they should not be an over riding concern when it comes to
all our endeavors.

Compatibility with ODF is key, but otherwise--let's invent!

Think about the situation back at OO.o with the Education project - How
should we handle a situation such as this, where a group of active
individuals, members of the larger group, decide to pursue a specialized
derivative of the main application - would be shun them?

What if a young designer, or an old, proposes some radical
ideas - and some young developers see the same vision and want to pursue
it - will we have a way to help, and support them - or will we view it
only as a loss from the perspective of work-hours on the libreOffice

I personally see a situation like this as a benefit to our community. As an analogy, Mozilla has a 
large "Labs" environment, in which new concepts are tested and experimented upon. Should they prove 
useful, they become additional projects of their own, under the larger Mozilla umbrella. Apache 
does this too, as do many large technology for-profits. It's clearly a model that works.

Thanks for bringing up this train of thought.


Benjamin Horst
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