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Re: [board-discuss] Initiative to improve communication channels


Decidim allows to enrich spaces for participation through multiple available components (surveys, proposals, follow-up of results, comments and several more).

-> True; as - I think I said - no experience with all participation tools.. Did try decidim quickly today.  I personally find https://try.decidim.org not utmost attractive visually (not judging the functionality, capability's or scale ability) . Another part is a full fetched participation environment really needed. Or is it rather overblown functionality nobody actually gonna use. The number of active commenting users isn't extremely large; and the number responding here even lower.  Even polls at https://planet.documentfoundation.org/ attract representative amount of users. I happy already with kind of comment board showing depth (so responds too) and a moderation score (the moderation can be done by anyone logged in at the site). Gray means Off-topic / irrelevant; +3 Spotlight. In addition can a vote be added; to support/unsupported. And maybe a poll functionality Are more options actually needed? I'm would be quite happy with forum/ bulletin board with decent comment functionality and possibly to support a comment and/or prioritizing comments.

This e-mail message board is not my type of thing.  Unstructured, hard to go through. Bug tracker message system is already a lot better. And a message board with comments (which easily show who is responding to what and being able to filter based on votes and or moderation score) is perfect already. The 'voting'/ supporting should be enough for non fluent people, I think. And message board maybe even be translated too by some automatic translation site. Quality is often quite acceptable. Visa versa people could use a translation side to write their opinion in native language, while being automatically translated to English with some  'heading: automatic translation" and the source text below. That's what I do if there is a posting of a bug in Spanish/French/German.

And it could environment could be used also on blog.documentfoundation.org. As I'm talking about message board with same functionality (except slightly improved comment system). So to backend or the whole site could shared. Without bloating everything with again a new environment for participation. Including maintaining (security updates/ configuration)/ moderating etc. And all the comments can also send as e-mail message to the e-mail archive if people like nabble/mailings.


Op 18-7-2020 om 16:08 schreef Daniel Armando Rodriguez:
El 2020-07-17 15:35, Telesto escribió:

Please don't confuse "making voices heard", which is generally good, with "offering them a vote", which is generally problematic if they do not carry any responsibilities upon which their votes might rely and especially if they are willing to vote for ideas they don't fully understand on the basis only of personality or identity. Decisions made in that way have bad outcomes.

+1 for the above

Sometimes I think, don't make it to to complex.

The intention is completely the opposite

As there number of people contributing to the discussion oversee able. So maybe some kind of news article/news board of system;  An introduction article [Starting point] + comment system like this (not sure how it's called); https://tweakers.net/reviews/7694/last/android-11-kleine-verfijningen-zonder-zoete-verrassingen.html#reacties.  The starting point can be created by anybody registered. The response and the voting makes it easier to keep track of important input (read-up) and what people support or not. For tapping into the general public I would prefer a a polling system. Some background story [XXX] What do you think about Community Edition. Great Idea! Not so, because..  [44 characters or maybe few more to keep it short]. If the want to give more input they should go you can go to www..

Decidim allows to enrich spaces for participation through multiple available components (surveys, proposals, follow-up of results, comments and several more).

The ultimately decision should me made at the board.  The community tools intended to gather input (and should communicated this way).

As Sophi said, "this is not about offering to vote (which can be disabled in Decidim) but about providing a support to a comment. It's very different because that allows people not fluent in English to give an educated opinion and partipate. It's easy when you're fluent to express yourself, and it takes hours to one who is not, most of the time he will abandon before."






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