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Hi Paolo, Franklin, all,

it would be great, if we could work together on a process to merge both branches together and get 
the community versions in sync. I think this could be done most easy on Github.


Am 24. Juni 2022 11:29:16 MESZ schrieb Paolo Vecchi <>:
Hi Franklin,

thanks for the great proposal.

As the LOOL archival discussion is planned for Monday I'll ask the board to modify the agenda to 
start discussing your' and Andreas' proposal.

There is a lot that needs to be evaluated with the community to see if and in which way we can 
make LOOL available for the community again.



On 24/06/2022 06:37, Franklin Weng wrote:


Here I have a proposal: to have LOOL respository sync to another LOOL-derived suite: <>

OxOOL is developed by OSSII in Taiwan, derived from LOOL.  It has commercial version, which is 
several versions advanced to community version, while the community version is also open 
sourced.  Currently National Development Council Taiwan, the main dominant unit of ODF policy in 
Taiwanese government, uses (forks) this community version into "NDCODFweb": <>

which is also mainly supported by OSSII.

Besides NDCODFWeb and some other Taiwanese government units, OxOOL is also used in different 
companies and products.  For example, it is integrated into ASUS cloud Omnistor Office 
(, OpenFind SecuShare Pro 
( It is migrated into Pou Chen Group 
( and some other big anonymous companies.  Also, it is deployed in UNAU 
( ).

OxOOL v4 will be released in a month and can be a good and useful base to LOOL, also good to the 
LibreOffice community.

I'm not a representative of OSSII, but the GM of OSSII told me that they are happy to share the 
community version.

In this proposal there are two ways to relive LOOL:

1. To sync current LOOL with patches from OxOOL community v4, which may technically take more 
time and efforts.

2. Start a new repository from OxOOL community v4, which I'll say that it is actually a "fast 
forward" from current status since OxOOL is also derived from LOOL, though a bit far before. It 
will be technically easier than 1., just that maybe some community people may feel uneasy or 
unhappy with this way.

Both ways are okay for me, as long as LOOL can be relived. However no matter which way, IMO TDF 
needs to employ in-house developers (independent from *any* ecosystem member) for rerunning 
LOOL.  The second option, which is my prefer option, is a lot easier technically and in-house 
developers would just need to (cowork with community members and OSSII to) maintain LOOL 

Features in OxOOL commercial version are mostly (customized) requests from customers and hence 
may not necessarily need to be backported (to community version), but the GM of OSSII also 
promised that OxOOL Commercial version functions (which they think good / necessary to be back 
ported) and bugfixes will be back ported to LOOL (and OxOOL community version too).

Of course, after reliving LOOL all developers are welcomed to contribute to LOOL.

Details can be discussed with OSSII.


Paolo Vecchi 於 2022/6/21 20:15 寫道:
Hi all,

just a heads up in case the community would like to come up with proposals in regards to 
LibreOffice On-Line.

As you might be aware LOOL's repository has been frozen since the major code contributor 
decided to move it to GitHub and not contribute back to TDF's repository.

At the time there has been a debate about it but then nothing actionable seems to have been 
proposed by the community since then.

Recently an ex-member of the ESC proposed to the ESC to archive LOOL [0] and during the 
following ESC meeting no concerns were expressed for doing so [1].

The "Attic Policy" [2], that has been written to archive obsolete projects, states that the 
Board will need to vote on the archival process to confirm ESC's choice.

It is likely that the board will need to vote on it soon so if the community would like to do 
something with LOOL there might be a small window of opportunity to have your preferences on 
what to do with it heard.

If nobody comes along proposing to look after it and update if so that it could be brought back 
into an usable form for the community then the board might have to vote for having LOOL 




Paolo Vecchi - Member of the Board of Directors
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