Re: [board-discuss] Enable TDF to contribute more code to LibreOffice with in-house developers to address our donors specific needs

El 8/2/22 a las 17:06, Andreas Mantke escribió:
> Hi Simon,
>
> Am 08.02.22 um 19:44 schrieb Simon Phipps:
> > Hi Andreas!
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 5:59 PM Andreas Mantke <maand@gmx.de> wrote:
> >
> >
> >     but it wouldn't improve the situation, if - like today - the
> >     experienced
> >     fisherman / fishermen take every new talented fisher immediately 
> > from
> >     the free software developer (volunteer) market.
> >
> >     Thus there is now chance for a divers market with a lot of small and
> corrent sentence: 'Thus there is _no_ chance for a divers market with a
> lot of small and'


And such chance exists right now?


> >     local businesses around the LibreOffice project. Thus the (business)
> >     user of LibreOffice will not get the opportunity to choose between
> >     different service provider.
> >
> >     If this situation will not change immediately the LibreOffice
> >     certification program will not give a competitive edge.
> >
> >
> > Do you believe TDF could spend donated funds on the salaries of
> > developers who write LibreOffice, Andreas? As I recall when we were on
> > the Board you asserted this would be an improper use of TDF's funding
> > under its bylaws?
> The only way to employ developers is for education and for science and
> research (according to the statutes and the tax exemption). But the goal
> has to be teaching others to work on the code and get some knowledge
> (e.g. for the education part).
>
> But if new volunteers get that knowledge, a certificate and were
> talented developer they get very soon partner / staff of the biggest
> market player. That would never lead to a divers service environment
> around LibreOffice. Thus everybody who needs service around LibreOffice
> will never get the opportunity (one strength of OSS) to choose between
> service providers. There are other communities / OSS projects with
> companies of different size and a divers project structure and no
> company is dominating the project / community.


I think Andreas hits the nail on the head when he mentions that in other 
projects no company dominates the project or the community.

TDF has a development mentor, why shouldn't he be the one who decides 
what gets written, and how? I think it's not about competing with the 
valuable members of the ecosystem, it's about the foundation taking the 
reins of the project.


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