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El 8/2/22 a las 17:06, Andreas Mantke escribió:
Hi Simon,

Am 08.02.22 um 19:44 schrieb Simon Phipps:
Hi Andreas!

On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 5:59 PM Andreas Mantke <> wrote:

    but it wouldn't improve the situation, if - like today - the
    fisherman / fishermen take every new talented fisher immediately from
    the free software developer (volunteer) market.

    Thus there is now chance for a divers market with a lot of small and

corrent sentence: 'Thus there is _no_ chance for a divers market with a
lot of small and'

And such chance exists right now?

    local businesses around the LibreOffice project. Thus the (business)
    user of LibreOffice will not get the opportunity to choose between
    different service provider.

    If this situation will not change immediately the LibreOffice
    certification program will not give a competitive edge.

Do you believe TDF could spend donated funds on the salaries of
developers who write LibreOffice, Andreas? As I recall when we were on
the Board you asserted this would be an improper use of TDF's funding
under its bylaws?

The only way to employ developers is for education and for science and
research (according to the statutes and the tax exemption). But the goal
has to be teaching others to work on the code and get some knowledge
(e.g. for the education part).

But if new volunteers get that knowledge, a certificate and were
talented developer they get very soon partner / staff of the biggest
market player. That would never lead to a divers service environment
around LibreOffice. Thus everybody who needs service around LibreOffice
will never get the opportunity (one strength of OSS) to choose between
service providers. There are other communities / OSS projects with
companies of different size and a divers project structure and no
company is dominating the project / community.

I think Andreas hits the nail on the head when he mentions that in other projects no company dominates the project or the community.

TDF has a development mentor, why shouldn't he be the one who decides what gets written, and how? I think it's not about competing with the valuable members of the ecosystem, it's about the foundation taking the reins of the project.

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