Hi Alex, thanks for your contribution and see inline my comments. On 09/07/2020 16:30, Alexander Werner wrote:
Dear board, dear community, Abstract: I request the board to: - provide software in accordance with the statues.
Absolutely, there is no intention of changing that.
- remove parts of the software that are of no use for the intended audience, hereby meaning the support key "feature" of LOOL.
Thanks for notifying us of that. I personally wasn't aware of it.
- undo the "Personal" edition branding.
That was a temporary placeholder used while the developers implemented a potential tag line features that may or may not be used depending on the outcome of this consultation. "Personal" was one of the many options that came out while we were preparing this consultation. Nothing has been yet decided about it.
I am very concerned about the recent developments regarding the strategic future of LibreOffice and The Document Foundation. As this concern is shared by many no quick decision should be taken. I want to remind all of you what The Document Foundation is all about, as stated in the *unalterable* statutes (https://www.documentfoundation.org/foundation/statutes/): "The objective of the foundation is the promotion and development of office software available for use by anyone free of charge." - this does not restrict the target audience. "This software will be openly available for free use by anyone for their own files, including companies and public authorities, ensuring full participation in a digital society and without detriment to intellectual property." I would like to remind all members of the board of directors that first and foremost you are obliged to pursue these statutes. As a consequence you must not restrict the target audience of LibreOffice to a specific user group in any way.
The statutes and their principles are the reason why a vibrant Community has been able to form around TDF and nobody in the Board has any intention of doing anything that goes against them. There has never been any idea of limiting access or the features of LibreOffice.
But this already happens for quite some time and is now getting worse: 1. LibreOffice Online - Unsupported Warning The website for LibreOffice Online states: "The Document Foundation will not be maintaining binaries for enterprise use". This is clearly in violation of the statutes. (https://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-online/) The website also includes a picture of a warning message that often appears (https://www.libreoffice.org/assets/Uploads/LibreOffice-Online-limit.png), and it is also stated: "... is designed for personal and/or development use ..." This is not only in violation of the statues, but also very questionable behaviour for Free/Libre and Open Source Software. **I hereby request the board to take action to provide the software in accordance with the statutes.** 2. LibreOffice Online - Containing Support Keys Looking through the source code of LibreOffice Online, it can be easily found, that there is a build option for support keys, this makes absolutely no sense in our software product. (https://git.libreoffice.org/online/+/refs/heads/master/wsd/LOOLWSD.cpp#1259) **I hereby request the board to take action to remove parts of the software that are of no use for the intended audience.**
Thanks for notifying us of your concerns. I'm not up to speed with those bits of code so I'll check with my fellow members of the Board. Keep in mind that LibreOffice On-Line derives mostly from development carried out by Collabora for their On-Line product so there may be parts in the code that are left from their own development. I'm sure Michael Meeks will answer back ASAP to correct me if I said something wrong.
3. LibreOffice "Personal Edition" As I have already mentionend in my comment to the Bug Report (https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134486#c23), I see any restriction or even suggested restriction of the intended audience in violation of the statutes. I would also like to remind, that there are still and fresh versions existing right now (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan), and that the still versions are intended for "conservative, corporate deployments". Will the "still" "Personal Edition" then be recommended for "corporate deployments"? I don't believe that this is understood by our audience in any way. Also: I don't see the reason for the "Personal Edition" tag, as this means that TDF must also provide another edition that is then targeted for all other use cases.
There is no intention of providing another edition at all. LibreOffice is and will remain LibreOffice. The proposal, as described in the evolving marketing plan, is to potentially add a tag line which would help in clarifying to corporate users that TDF does not provide the enterprise support and consulting services they may require so that they can realise that there is an ecosystem that can help them. As above, no tag line has been decided and that's why we are here discussing it.
**I hereby request the board to take action that this change be undone to gain time for the community to find a consensus.** My personal opinion is to keep the Brand LibreOffice as a name, and certified vendors are able to provide support and services as "LibreOffice Enterprise" partners. If you change the product, the name is to be changed.
LibreOffice is surely going to be kept, members of the Community like you are at present expressing their preferences on an eventual additional tag line. That means there could be a tag line or not at the end of this consultation. If there is going to be one my preference would be for "Community Edition" so that we make the world know that there is a Community behind LibreOffice. LibreOffice Enterprise is "just" a brand for the ecosystem, not a new version of LibreOffice, not a new product or a company. Members of the ecosystem will use their own names, brand, whatever they prefer for their products and services and will be allowed to use the name LibreOffice under certain conditions and through a TM agreement.
As this topic already gained significant public interest, it is now the time for the board to re-evaluate the Marketing Plan and its hopefully unintended side-effects.
We are actually here to discuss with you to avoid side effects while making the world realise that we are a Community and whoever can should contribute to the project.
The primary goal of The Document Foundation is to fulfill its statutes, and the secondary goal is to cater for ecosystem vendors needs.
It seems like we have common goals.
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