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Re: [steering-discuss] Base - a new mailing list?

HI :)
Base needs to have some documentation to help devs understand what it's trying to do.  

With the other apps it's much easier to have an overview even without having any documentation but 
Base is a lot more complex.  Also there needs to be some discussion between devs and other people 
to decide what to use instead of java, and the direction to take generally.  Apparently the default 
HqSql back-end is fairly troublesome but there is a new project "MariaDb" that is a drop-in 
replacement for MySql that might be much better as a back-end.  MariaDb is basically almost the 
entire community that worked on MySql including some of the original people plus a load of new 
people that joined since the project broke free from Sun/Oracle.  Anyway it needs a small team of 
people to try out different back-ends to see which are viable as back-ends and which might be 
easiest to have as the default one.  Perhaps bringing their recommendation back to steering-discuss 
to make an informed vote.  

As i understand it the current infra-structure is leading to Base gently crumbling away through 
neglect.  Experienced devs steer well away from Base.  New ones need to learn more understanding 
about coding or about Base or about both.  Every time an individual joins and is keen to work on 
some aspect of Base they realise it's a completely tangled mess and they would be the only person 
working on it so they get discouraged and give-up.  

Yes it would be great to have input from the entire devs list but 
1.  They are not interested in Base
2.  The non-coders that want to do non-coding work on Base (eg Documentation, perhaps marketing, 
perhaps design of aspects of the UI that only appear in Base, the wizards and so on) would be 
unable to understand.  

Regards from
Tom :)

--- On Sun, 11/9/11, Michael Meeks <> wrote:

From: Michael Meeks <>
Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] Base - a new mailing list?
Date: Sunday, 11 September, 2011, 16:59

Hi Tom,

On Sun, 2011-09-11 at 14:39 +0100, Tom Davies wrote:
A few people have asked about starting up a new mailing list to try to
bring together people that want to work on Base.  People from
Documentation, Developers perhaps later on some people from Design.  

    Is there already a diverse set of private mails on the topic ? that
show a mailing list is useful ? the developers list discusses work on
all components - and of course the idea of a Base: suffix is there.

    Also - given the volume of devs. on the dev list you may well get some
advice and assistance :-)

At the moment there are people that want to work on Base but each
is isolated and 'waiting' for people on other teams to do things

    What needs to be done before the bug fixing starts - that's what I'm
interested in ? :-) I see Lionel fixing some bugs but ... ;-)



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