Re: [steering-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Hello! ... and lurking :-)
Hi Sam, *
Sam Ruby schrieb:
[...]What is clear to me is that if it turns
out that this (not yet accepted, and therefore only potential)
incubating project never establishes a diverse set of contributors that
could survive the exit of any one of them, including IBM that the ASF
would undoubtedly conclude that incubation was unsuccessful and
terminate the incubation unsuccessfully.
And this might be even worse for OpenOffice.org than ASF not accepting
the incubating project:
While in case of unsuccessful incubation the trademark OpenOffice.org
will be finally dead (because it has not been maintained by a vivid
community as we did it for ten years) and buried.
We could discuss if this might help LibreOffice - but all of us who
started supporting OpenOffice.org years ago don't want OOo to be lost in
the dark. It has been a great name and stands for an (r)evolution in
With the public recognition of being the ones to drop OpenOffice.org
(because it didn't get the necessary momentum to survive) the Apache
project might be damaged too in this case.
If the proposed incubation will be rejected on the other hand because
it's preparation had not been sufficiently elaborated (necessity to keep
the project running during the incubation time), it would be Oracle and
IBM to think about their choice:
Keeping the community out of the decision making process has never been
a good plan for OpenOffice.org, and it would not Apache to be blamed for
a possible failure if they keep on this way...
Most of this context might be totally irrelevant for Apache - damage to
the existing community, damage to the trademark - because at your side
the donation is a "fait accompli".
But possible damage to the Apache reputation by a failure of the new
incubator project well known all over the world might be something
With their donation to Apache Oracle and IBM got the best out of their
situation, as several other already said. Neither the remnant OOo
project nor the larger part of the OOo community now working on
LibreOffice have any chance to influence their decision.
Apache has - and it has got some kind of responsibility for
OpenOffice.org (the existing one, with the ".org" ending) already now,
and even more when they accept the incubation project.
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