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Re: [steering-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Hello! ... and lurking :-)

Hi Sam, *

Sam Ruby schrieb:
[...]What is clear to me is that if it turns
out that this (not yet accepted, and therefore only potential)
incubating project never establishes a diverse set of contributors that
could survive the exit of any one of them, including IBM that the ASF
would undoubtedly conclude that incubation was unsuccessful and
terminate the incubation unsuccessfully.

And this might be even worse for than ASF not accepting the incubating project:

While in case of unsuccessful incubation the trademark will be finally dead (because it has not been maintained by a vivid community as we did it for ten years) and buried.

We could discuss if this might help LibreOffice - but all of us who started supporting years ago don't want OOo to be lost in the dark. It has been a great name and stands for an (r)evolution in office software.

With the public recognition of being the ones to drop (because it didn't get the necessary momentum to survive) the Apache project might be damaged too in this case.

If the proposed incubation will be rejected on the other hand because
it's preparation had not been sufficiently elaborated (necessity to keep the project running during the incubation time), it would be Oracle and IBM to think about their choice:

Keeping the community out of the decision making process has never been a good plan for, and it would not Apache to be blamed for a possible failure if they keep on this way...

Most of this context might be totally irrelevant for Apache - damage to the existing community, damage to the trademark - because at your side the donation is a "fait accompli".

But possible damage to the Apache reputation by a failure of the new incubator project well known all over the world might be something different.

With their donation to Apache Oracle and IBM got the best out of their situation, as several other already said. Neither the remnant OOo project nor the larger part of the OOo community now working on LibreOffice have any chance to influence their decision.

Apache has - and it has got some kind of responsibility for (the existing one, with the ".org" ending) already now, and even more when they accept the incubation project.

Best regards


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