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[steering-discuss] LibO registration page gone?

Hi guys,

On Thu, 2010-10-28 at 11:15 +0200, Florian Effenberger wrote:
As not everyone might be on steering-discuss yet, forwarding it here
We can discuss it on sc-discuss then

        So let me try to do that [ I believe I'm subscribed now ]

From: Anthony Papillion <>
On 10/27/2010 8:06 PM, Marc Paré wrote:
I had posted this in the wrong mailist and intended it here.

I have just been informed that the registration page has been removed
from LibO. All it took was on bug report to have it removed.

        It was removed before the first Beta; correct.

Did I miss something? I don't remember a good and deep debate about
this. Removing the registration page, in my opinion, is short-sighted.

        Personally; I prefer to have the debate framed in terms of whether we
should add something like that back.

While it's true that it is a nuisance

        In the commenter's words - it is indeed a nuisance. Here is at least my

* Cons of registration page
        + It makes OO.o look like some shareware / marketing-ware thing
        + It clutters our startup, with extra confusing clicks
        + It has some annoying "annoy me again later" option you have
          to carefully avoid.
        + There are real privacy, data collection and storage issues
          around the data that is entered
        + LibreOffice currently has no infrastructure to register and
          store that data at all, never mind in a compliant way
        + Very many people will simply ignore it, thus giving us only a
          subset of users, and presumably those who care little for
          their privacy
        + Ubuntu had a -massive- flamewar before removing a somewhat
          more defensible dialog about something very similar, and
          currently do not ship with this dialog cf.:

* Pros of registration page
        + It allows us to collect data on people that have no problems
          entering their personal information into this sort of thing
                + we could (hypothetically) use that data for something

Maybe even just a name and state/country collector?  Removing the
data collection point altogether will create a huge blind spot
between us and our users.

        So - I really don't think this creates a huge blind-spot. I would be
amazed if Mirrorbrain cannot give us state/country information and
breakdown from its list of IP addresses that it re-directs for
downloads. Peter is some kind of wizard - so I suspect we can get this
now. Failing that we know our approximate geographical penetration from
the font analysis work.

        We can also get a similar set of data we can analyse geographically by
looking at hits on our link to the extensions repository.

        So - in summary ... putting this 'back' is not a free operation - it
takes real work, it also annoys real users (including some of the
commenters, and me too FWIW ;-).

        Now - the migration page - that is different, we have a plan to fix the
issues Mechtilde carefully identified there, and I need to execute on it
(working ... ;-)



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