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- Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Accessibility (was Java dependency)
- From: Michael Meeks <michael.meeks@novell.com>
- Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 06:47:56 -0400
- To: jonathon <toki.kantoor@gmail.com>
- Cc: discuss@documentfoundation.org, Christoph Noack <christophnoack.forum@arcor.de>
On Wed, 2010-11-03 at 02:08 +0000, jonathon wrote:
> > Is there a better alternative for Windows users?
>
> Roughly five years ago, IBM promised to deliver a better A11Y solution
> for Windows to OOo. AFAIK, that hasn't yet happened.
Agreed - this will be the best solution in the end. Novell (with
Oracle, and RedHat) initially wrote-out the Java dependency for a11y on
Linux, in favour of a native atk+ bridge - which (for all its troubles)
performs better, and is actually widely deployed (giving us lots of nice
bug reports). Clearly we need the same for Mac and Windows.
Writing such a native bridge is not -that- hard, and I'm not aware of a
better sol'n than java for Mac - if anyone is interested in doing a bit
of socially useful hacking, here they need to read:
vcl/unx/gtk/a11y/*
and:
http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/Accessibility/cocoaAXIntro/cocoaAXintro.html
And get in touch :-)
> Basically, you have to throw away _all_ of the existing code, and
> rewrite it from scratch, with i18n, l10n, and a11y as the core
> requirements. [Retrofitting a11y, i18n, or l10n always requires more
> time and effort that starting from the beginning, with no code at all.]
Nah - it is not this bad; there is a reasonable internal a11y
structure: it has several obvious weaknesses, but perhaps we can fix
some of them if we are past the religion of eternal UNO API stability in
this area.
> Something I hadn't thought of earlier, was what the Libre Colour palette
> looked like to a person that was colour blind. My colour blind palette
> only covers the "websafe color palette". None of the colours are in that
> palette.
Good thinking; it would be great to ping Christoph Noack on that
presumably he has thought at least a bit about it - the monochrome
outline is quite good I imagine.
Anyhow - a really good write-up; if you want to get involved hacking on
this, it'd be much appreciated.
ATB,
Michael.
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