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Re: [tdf-discuss] Survey|Opinion - LibreOffice Install and Update
- Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Survey|Opinion - LibreOffice Install and Update
- From: Paul A Norman <firstname.lastname@example.org>
- Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 10:57:15 +1300
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On 10 October 2010 10:23, Scott Furry <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> LibreOffice Community,
> As suggested, this post is intended to get the opinion of the community
> about how best to deliver LibreOffice to its users.
> Given that LibreOffice is an important and viable alternative to paid-for
> office productivity software, and we all feel strongly and passionately
> about the direction of LibreOffice, input about the community members'
> expectations/needs/users is needed.
> From what we have heard on this topic so far:
> - Mac users have commented that they do not have an issue with the current
> installer available on the Mac platform.
> - Window users indicated that an update mechanism would be great. Some
> commented that the current Windows installer leaves artifacts behind. The
> Windows Installer does not detect/remove previous installations properly.
With all due repsects to the vast numbers of potential new M$ users of
LiBO - everything needs to be done for them. That will probably never
change. There are millions and millions of them who are not going to
be in a *nix system - sometimes beyond their control.
People have ended up with over a gigs worth of OOO stuff over time,
and only about a quarter or less of it, actually in use.
In fact in previous installs of OOO people have commented to me that
they have felt that OOO needs all its install files to keep running
properly, and so they can't delete them after the installs!
(There, to my knowledge, has never been a message telling them to
delete install files at the end of the install - and it really should
be done for them any way).
> - Linux users have discussed vast amounts opinions on packaging in Linux.
> Some have questioned if distributing packages is a good thing.
> This survey is to gauge the views of the LibreOffice community on the
> install/update method of LibreOffice. Please voice your opinion so that
> these considerations may be taken into account when the LibreOffice method
> of install/update is studied by the developer team. Please *bottom-post*
> your opinions.
I am trying to answer all this also as I *know* other friends and
users would like an office suite to operate, who have avoided/not been
happy with OOO and like things in the past.
> How do you expect LibreOffice to be updated?
Behind the scenes and uttlery automatically, with prompts only if new
options are available.
> How do you Install/Update LibreOffice?
XP - Download directly.
Ubuntu - presently - package manager (please see note below)
> What do you expect when Installing/Updating LibreOffice?
It will handle all dependencies, keep track of what it has done -
clean up after itself, only trouble me with real issues during setup,
updates just to be done and only trouble me if necessary.
> Other programs have separate updating programs (iTunes being an example), if
> it was technically feasible, would having a separate install program for
> LibreOffice (with updating features) be useful to you?
> Would having a download and update site, as well as a Unix|Linux package
> repository site, be of value to you?
I beleive so,
I may differ with some, but I believe that with the plethra of *nix
distributions now in varying degrees of maintanence, that actually
having a direct install to get the best availbele version of LiBO
installed is better, let us risk a little (some times temporary)
bloat, and have isolated (used by LiBO only and so does not interfer
with the OS distro) more uptodate modules of dependanceis that the OS
is not uptodate on itself. Have LiBO auto checking on each LiBO
update and if the OS distro has caught up, have LiBO delete its own
now unneeded module(s) and use the OS distro's updated shared
> Please note that I am not affiliated with DocumentFoundation. I am like you,
> a community member who wants to see LibreOffice be very successful.
> So let's hear what you think folks?
> Scott Furry
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